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Wired News: Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short
by w1ld at 2:08 pm EDT, May 12, 2004

] Hybrid cars are hot, but not as hot as their owners, who
] complain that their gas mileage hasn't come close to
] well-advertised estimates.
]
] Today's the Day. Pete Blackshaw was so excited about
] getting a hybrid gasoline-electric car that he had his
] wife videotape the trip to the Honda dealership to pick
] up his Civic Hybrid.
]
] But after a few months of commuting to his job in Cincinnati,
] Blackshaw's hybrid euphoria vanished as his car's odometer
] revealed that the gas mileage he was hoping for was only a pipe
] dream. Honda's Civic Hybrid is rated by the EPA to get 47 miles
] per gallon in the city, and 48 mpg on the highway. After nearly
] 1,000 miles of mostly city driving, Blackshaw was getting
] 31.4 mpg.


 
RE: Wired News: Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short
by biochik007 at 7:45 pm EDT, May 12, 2004

w1ld wrote:
] ] Hybrid cars are hot, but not as hot as their owners, who
] ] complain that their gas mileage hasn't come close to
] ] well-advertised estimates.
] ]
] ] Today's the Day. Pete Blackshaw was so excited about
] ] getting a hybrid gasoline-electric car that he had his
] ] wife videotape the trip to the Honda dealership to pick
] ] up his Civic Hybrid.
] ]
] ] But after a few months of commuting to his job in
] Cincinnati,
] ] Blackshaw's hybrid euphoria vanished as his car's odometer
] ] revealed that the gas mileage he was hoping for was only a
] pipe
] ] dream. Honda's Civic Hybrid is rated by the EPA to get 47
] miles
] ] per gallon in the city, and 48 mpg on the highway. After
] nearly
] ] 1,000 miles of mostly city driving, Blackshaw was getting
] ] 31.4 mpg.

Wow my bug gets better than that :)


Wired News: Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short
by k at 2:27 pm EDT, May 12, 2004

] Hybrid cars are hot, but not as hot as their owners, who
] complain that their gas mileage hasn't come close to
] well-advertised estimates.
]
] Don't knock the car companies for inflated claims:
] Experts say the blame lies with the 19-year-old EPA
] fuel-efficiency test that overstates hybrid performance.
] ...

[ Also, " The EPA test "has inherent shortcomings, irrespective of what kind of car is being driven," says Philip Schmidt, professor of engineering at the University of Texas at Austin. Schmidt says hybrid cars use computers to more precisely control the flow of gasoline and have more efficient catalytic converters, which reduce the amount of emissions. Schmidt "wouldn't rule out" that hybrid cars' ability to limit emissions contributes to the disparity in EPA versus real-world numbers.

Federal law requires that auto manufacturers use only EPA estimates when promoting their vehicles' fuel economy, according to Toyota spokeswoman Nancy Hubbell.

I don't imagine this is the last we'll see of this issue. Certainly, my car doesn't get near the stickered milage, though i blame most of that on the way i drive, which is to say, fast and at higher RPM. Still even when i was trying to be efficient, i didn't get there, so clearly the tests are overstating the reality in most cases.

Does anyone get MORE miles to the gallon than indicated by their sticker? -k]


 
RE: Wired News: Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short
by biochik007 at 12:50 am EDT, May 13, 2004

k wrote:
] ] Hybrid cars are hot, but not as hot as their owners, who
] ] complain that their gas mileage hasn't come close to
] ] well-advertised estimates.
] ]
] ] Don't knock the car companies for inflated claims:
] ] Experts say the blame lies with the 19-year-old EPA
] ] fuel-efficiency test that overstates hybrid performance.
] ] ...
]
] [ Also, " The EPA test "has inherent shortcomings,
] irrespective of what kind of car is being driven," says Philip
] Schmidt, professor of engineering at the University of Texas
] at Austin. Schmidt says hybrid cars use computers to more
] precisely control the flow of gasoline and have more efficient
] catalytic converters, which reduce the amount of emissions.
] Schmidt "wouldn't rule out" that hybrid cars' ability to limit
] emissions contributes to the disparity in EPA versus
] real-world numbers.
]
] Federal law requires that auto manufacturers use only EPA
] estimates when promoting their vehicles' fuel economy,
] according to Toyota spokeswoman Nancy Hubbell.

]
] I don't imagine this is the last we'll see of this issue.
] Certainly, my car doesn't get near the stickered milage,
] though i blame most of that on the way i drive, which is to
] say, fast and at higher RPM. Still even when i was trying to
] be efficient, i didn't get there, so clearly the tests are
] overstating the reality in most cases.
]
] Does anyone get MORE miles to the gallon than indicated by
] their sticker? -k]

Mine is pretty close, I do get better than sticker on the highway :)


 
 
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