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Simplify, Simplify - Times Topics Blog - NYTimes.com
by dmv at 1:48 pm EST, Dec 9, 2008

Clearly, to adhere to our style rules, F.D.R. should have said “that.” This is a restrictive clause defining the “date” we’re talking about. (In fact, the Columbia World of Quotations, among other sources, renders the quote incorrectly online, substituting “that.”)

Perhaps Roosevelt thought, as many writers and speakers seem to do, that “which” sounded more elevated or powerful. Or perhaps he was influenced by British usage, which often employs “which” in restrictive clauses. In any case, we’re prepared to allow an exception here.


Simplify, Simplify - Times Topics Blog - NYTimes.com
by Decius at 2:19 pm EST, Dec 9, 2008

Clearly, to adhere to our style rules, F.D.R. should have said “that.” This is a restrictive clause defining the “date” we’re talking about. (In fact, the Columbia World of Quotations, among other sources, renders the quote incorrectly online, substituting “that.”)

Perhaps Roosevelt thought, as many writers and speakers seem to do, that “which” sounded more elevated or powerful. Or perhaps he was influenced by British usage, which often employs “which” in restrictive clauses. In any case, we’re prepared to allow an exception here.

I've been hounded by Microsoft Word about this "grammatical error" for years. I had no idea it was a British vs. American English thing. IMHO, some sentences just sound better with which rather than that. Some sentences sound better the other way. I guess most Americans religiously use that?


 
 
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