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"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ" --Gandhi

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -Theodore Roosevelt

"A little revolution, now and then, is a good thing." -Thomas Jefferson-

"In my lifetime, we've gone from Eisenhower to George W. Bush. We've gone from John F. Kennedy to Al Gore. If this is evolution, I believe that in 12 years, we'll be voting for plants." -Lewis Black-

"When you're born in the world you're given a ticket to the freakshow; when you're born in America you're given a front-row seat. And some of us in the front row have notebooks and pencils." -George Carlin

Ex-CIA Officers Rip Bush Over Rove Leak
Topic: War on Terrorism 5:52 pm EDT, Jul 22, 2005

"I wouldn't be here this morning if President Bush had done the one thing required of him as commander in chief — protect and defend the Constitution,"

I didn't say it, a CIA guy did!

Ex-CIA Officers Rip Bush Over Rove Leak


'Star Trek' Star James Doohan Dies
Topic: Movies 12:35 pm EDT, Jul 20, 2005

In 1973, he complained to his dentist, who advised him: "Jimmy, you're going to be Scotty long after you're dead. If I were you, I'd go with the flow."

"I took his advice," said Doohan, "and since then everything's been just lovely."

No line, his is the best.

'Star Trek' Star James Doohan Dies


London mayor says West fueled Islamic radicalism
Topic: War on Terrorism 12:29 pm EDT, Jul 20, 2005

Israel's ambassador to London Zvi Heifetz accused the mayor of expressing sympathy for Palestinian militants.

"It is outrageous that the same mayor who rightfully condemned the suicide bombing in London as perverted faith', defends those who, under the same extremist banner, kill Israelis," he said in a statement.

Actually I don't think that's what he's said at all. Understanding why someone would be angry enough to go to this sort of bombing is not the same as condoning it. In fact, it's probably the most important thing in preventing more people from taking that route.

London mayor says West fueled Islamic radicalism


RE: Bush: Any Criminals in Leak to Be Fired
Topic: Society 1:25 pm EDT, Jul 19, 2005

ibenez wrote:

Neoteric wrote:

Mike the Usurper wrote:

Bush said in June 2004 that he would fire anyone in his administration shown to have leaked information that exposed the identity of Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame. On Monday, however, he added the qualifier that it would have be shown that a crime was committed.

So now you need to have done something more than be unethical and harmful to the nation, you need to have done so criminally? I suppose that's fair, since holding by the earlier standard the changes in White House appointee payroll would have made a significant dent in the deficit...

This is the most clear example of this administration protecting it's own and not holding itself accountable to the American people. This administration is externalizing it's failures to the media. That's not right and not what we need in goverment leadership.

So then should BJ Clinton have quit after lying under oath which is a crime? BJ had to question the meaning of the word "is" for pete's sake.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on why BJ Clinton wasn't fired AFTER being found guilty of lying under oath before I entertain the notion of Satan (I mean Rove) being fired.

My response to this is that I don't have any sympathy for what Clinton in that regard either. I understand WHY he did it, and what he did there was not different than any other guy who gets caught with his hand in the cookie box, but doesn't want to end up in divorce court.

The question is, "what was he lying about?" Clinton was lying about not getting a little, in a civil proceeding funded by folks on the other side of the aisle (the Paula Jones case). The proceedings there were not because anyone had, or may have, broken the law, they were there because somebody thought that it would be a great way to score points on a sitting president by going after him as a philanderer.

I am going to say uncategorically, the people involved in that operation and this one are nothing short of treasonous. Their actions in both cases have acted to harm the security of this nation.

In the Jones case it prevented Clinton from taking actions that should have been taken because they would have caused aditional political problems. The Lewinski scandal manufactured by the disloyal opposition meant that operations against Al-Qaeda in the 90's did not happen. If they had, the disloyal opposition would have used that as further ammunition saying that this had been done to distract attention from the personal problems. Their actions stopped operations that could have stopped Bin Ladin in 1998 and 9/11 would have never happened.

In the current case of Karl Rove and Scooter Libby exposing a covert operative, they have done DIRECT harm to the intelligence gathering abilities of the United States. Prior to this exposure, she was in a per... [ Read More (0.2k in body) ]

RE: Bush: Any Criminals in Leak to Be Fired


Fla. Teacher to Claim Insanity in Sex Case
Topic: Current Events 4:08 pm EDT, Jul 18, 2005

The boy told investigators he and the teacher had sex in a classroom, her house and once in a vehicle while his 15-year-old cousin drove. He said Lafave told him her marriage was in trouble and that she was aroused by the fact that having sex with him was not allowed.

I think the kid in this case has a serious problem. The rest of the people in his school are all going to be going "Dude! You were nailing a totally hot teacher and you had to fuck it up AND get her sent to jail? What the fuck is wrong with you man!" (beatings start)

Fla. Teacher to Claim Insanity in Sex Case


Welcome to Jesusland!
Topic: Miscellaneous 2:09 pm EDT, Jul 18, 2005

Wow. I don't even have any idea what to think about this one other than maybe that Jesus would be just as happy tossing this as he was tossing over the moneychangers. This is nuts!

Welcome to Jesusland!


Bush: Any Criminals in Leak to Be Fired
Topic: Politics and Law 1:03 pm EDT, Jul 18, 2005

Bush said in June 2004 that he would fire anyone in his administration shown to have leaked information that exposed the identity of Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame. On Monday, however, he added the qualifier that it would have be shown that a crime was committed.

So now you need to have done something more than be unethical and harmful to the nation, you need to have done so criminally? I suppose that's fair, since holding by the earlier standard the changes in White House appointee payroll would have made a significant dent in the deficit...

Bush: Any Criminals in Leak to Be Fired


Tom's Hardware Guide Games & Entertainment: Game Controller: Belkin Nostromo Speedpad n52 - Introduction
Topic: Games 11:53 am EDT, Jul 16, 2005

Belkin's Nostromo represents a collection of keys, a mouse wheel and a directional pad cleverly baked into one unit by the techno-chefs at the Compton, California based company.

I picked one of these up last night. So far, I like it. A lot. It's taking some getting used to, and I'm spending a lot of time trying different remaps, and it's a little long for my hand, but out of 5, I'm giving it a 4.5 right now. It's way more useful than any gamepad or joystick I've ever had, and since you can program it to macro for you, well damn, that's just plain sweet.

Tom's Hardware Guide Games & Entertainment: Game Controller: Belkin Nostromo Speedpad n52 - Introduction


Iowa Governor to Head Leadership Council
Topic: Politics and Law 6:07 pm EDT, Jul 15, 2005

He was on 2004 presidential nominee
John Kerry's short list of potential running mates, and after the election, he was urged by some to run for chairman of the
Democratic National Committee, a position now held by
Howard Dean.

This is both an interesting and troubling move for the Democrats. If Dean and Vilsack work well together, they might be able to put Dean's anger together with Vilsack's comment that, "It's not enough to be angry," and move forward. If they don't work well together, it's four more years that the Democrats don't learn the power of anger.

Iowa Governor to Head Leadership Council


Joseph Wilson Calls on Bush to Fire Rove
Topic: Miscellaneous 10:58 am EDT, Jul 14, 2005

"The president has said repeatedly, "I am a man of my word,' " Wilson added. "He should stand up and prove that his word is his bond and fire Karl Rove."

Good call Joe.

Joseph Wilson Calls on Bush to Fire Rove


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