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CTHEORY.NET : Why the Web Will Win the Culture Wars for the Left by Peter Lurie
by Decius at 12:57 pm EST, Feb 16, 2004

] The content available online is much less important than
] the manner in which it is delivered, indeed, the way the
] Web is structured. Its influence is structural rather
] than informational, and its structure is agnostic.
For
] that reason, parental controls of the sort that AOL can
] offer gives no comfort to conservatives. It's not that
] Johnny will Google "hardcore" or "T&A" rather than
] "family values;" rather, it's that Johnny will come to
] think, consciously or not, of everything he reads as
] linked, associative and contingent. He will be
] disinclined to accept the authority of any text, whether
] religious, political or artistic, since he has learned
] that there is no such thing as the last word, or indeed
] even a series of words that do not link, in some way, to
] some other text or game. For those who grow up reading
] online, reading will come to seem a game, one that
] endlessly plays out in unlimited directions. The web, in
] providing link after associative link, commentary upon
] every picture and paragraph, allows, indeed requires,
] users to engage in a postmodernist inquiry.

The media is the message.


 
RE: CTHEORY.NET : Why the Web Will Win the Culture Wars for the Left by Peter Lurie
by Davo at 8:32 pm EST, Feb 16, 2004

I actually think this is quite brilliant. We focus so much on context - like it is something that can be encapsulated in a document or a profile. It is more likely that each document, posting or other knowledge nugget is merely a snapshot capturing one moment (or concept) in an otherwise long string of knowledge.

Decius wrote:
] ] The content available online is much less important than
] ] the manner in which it is delivered, indeed, the way the
] ] Web is structured. Its influence is structural rather
] ] than informational, and its structure is agnostic.
For
] ] that reason, parental controls of the sort that AOL can
] ] offer gives no comfort to conservatives. It's not that
] ] Johnny will Google "hardcore" or "T&A" rather than
] ] "family values;" rather, it's that Johnny will come to
] ] think, consciously or not, of everything he reads as
] ] linked, associative and contingent. He will be
] ] disinclined to accept the authority of any text, whether
] ] religious, political or artistic, since he has learned
] ] that there is no such thing as the last word, or indeed
] ] even a series of words that do not link, in some way, to
] ] some other text or game. For those who grow up reading
] ] online, reading will come to seem a game, one that
] ] endlessly plays out in unlimited directions. The web, in
] ] providing link after associative link, commentary upon
] ] every picture and paragraph, allows, indeed requires,
] ] users to engage in a postmodernist inquiry.
]
] The media is the message.


CTHEORY.NET : Why the Web Will Win the Culture Wars for the Left by Peter Lurie
by ryan is the supernicety at 2:18 pm EST, Feb 16, 2004

] The content available online is much less important than
] the manner in which it is delivered, indeed, the way the
] Web is structured. Its influence is structural rather
] than informational, and its structure is agnostic.
For
] that reason, parental controls of the sort that AOL can
] offer gives no comfort to conservatives. It's not that
] Johnny will Google "hardcore" or "T&A" rather than
] "family values;" rather, it's that Johnny will come to
] think, consciously or not, of everything he reads as
] linked, associative and contingent. He will be
] disinclined to accept the authority of any text, whether
] religious, political or artistic, since he has learned
] that there is no such thing as the last word, or indeed
] even a series of words that do not link, in some way, to
] some other text or game. For those who grow up reading
] online, reading will come to seem a game, one that
] endlessly plays out in unlimited directions. The web, in
] providing link after associative link, commentary upon
] every picture and paragraph, allows, indeed requires,
] users to engage in a postmodernist inquiry.

The media is the message.

Ryan: That's a really interesting notion. I can only hope that it is true. The world could use a little more cynicism and a critical eye. I would love it if people could see moral relativism at least as it can be applied in some places rather than others. Perhaps I will save a more coherent rant on this piece for my own blog.....


CTHEORY.NET : Why the Web Will Win the Culture Wars for the Left by Peter Lurie
by k at 8:49 pm EST, Feb 16, 2004

] The content available online is much less important than
] the manner in which it is delivered, indeed, the way the
] Web is structured. Its influence is structural rather
] than informational, and its structure is agnostic.
For
] that reason, parental controls of the sort that AOL can
] offer gives no comfort to conservatives. It's not that
] Johnny will Google "hardcore" or "T&A" rather than
] "family values;" rather, it's that Johnny will come to
] think, consciously or not, of everything he reads as
] linked, associative and contingent. He will be
] disinclined to accept the authority of any text, whether
] religious, political or artistic, since he has learned
] that there is no such thing as the last word, or indeed
] even a series of words that do not link, in some way, to
] some other text or game. For those who grow up reading
] online, reading will come to seem a game, one that
] endlessly plays out in unlimited directions. The web, in
] providing link after associative link, commentary upon
] every picture and paragraph, allows, indeed requires,
] users to engage in a postmodernist inquiry.

[ very intriguing -k]


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