Nanochick wrote:
] ] An experimental vaccine wiped out lung cancer in some
] ] patients and slowed its spread in others in a small but
] ] promising study, researchers say.
]
]
] [wow...thats awesome. -nano]

Hrm... Maybe I should start smoking again.

terratogen wrote:
] Nanochick wrote:
] ] ] An experimental vaccine wiped out lung cancer in some
] ] ] patients and slowed its spread in others in a small but
] ] ] promising study, researchers say.
] ]
] ]
] ] [wow...thats awesome. -nano]
]
] Hrm... Maybe I should start smoking again.

You beat me too it...

Decius wrote:
] terratogen wrote:
] ] Nanochick wrote:
] ] ] ] An experimental vaccine wiped out lung cancer in some
] ] ] ] patients and slowed its spread in others in a small but
] ] ] ] promising study, researchers say.
] ] ]
] ] ]
] ] ] [wow...thats awesome. -nano]
] ]
] ] Hrm... Maybe I should start smoking again.
]
] You beat me too it...

Hey, I still smoke. Check the dates, motherfucker.

Nanochick wrote:
] ] An experimental vaccine wiped out lung cancer in some
] ] patients and slowed its spread in others in a small but
] ] promising study, researchers say.
]
]
] [wow...thats awesome. -nano]

indeed it is. now they just need to figure out a vaccine that wipes out smoking - the #1 cause of lung cancer, and they will really be on to something!

LB

Laughing Boy wrote:
] Nanochick wrote:
] ] ] An experimental vaccine wiped out lung cancer in some
] ] ] patients and slowed its spread in others in a small but
] ] ] promising study, researchers say.
] ]
] ]
] ] [wow...thats awesome. -nano]
]
] indeed it is. now they just need to figure out a vaccine that
] wipes out smoking - the #1 cause of lung cancer, and they will
] really be on to something!

F**k that! I like cigarettes. Get rid of the lung cancer, and we can smoke safely. BTW, pollution and contamination of drinking water are probably worse. IF you don't like smoking, then don't smoke. And if you don't like seeing others smoke, then kill yourself.
]
] LB

Vile wrote:
] Laughing Boy wrote:
] ] Nanochick wrote:
] ] ] ] An experimental vaccine wiped out lung cancer in some
] ] ] ] patients and slowed its spread in others in a small but
] ] ] ] promising study, researchers say.
] ] ]
] ] ]
] ] ] [wow...thats awesome. -nano]
] ]
] ] indeed it is. now they just need to figure out a vaccine
] that
] ] wipes out smoking - the #1 cause of lung cancer, and they
] will
] ] really be on to something!
]
] F**k that! I like cigarettes. Get rid of the lung cancer, and
] we can smoke safely.

Yea you’re right - never mind emphysema, bronchitis, high blood pressure, low birth weight, asthma, heart disease, stroke, pneumonia, (shall I continue?) not to mention the myriad of OTHER cancers that have been linked to smoking. Get rid of lung cancer and you'll have nothing to worry about! :)

] BTW, pollution and contamination of
] drinking water are probably worse.

WORSE??? Apparently we can chalk up one more thing attributed to smoking - chronic stupidity. Please don't make me bitch-slap you with statistics. Lung cancer is CLEARLY several magnitudes more prevalent in smokers than non-smokers. Pollution and drinking water? Sure. How many NON-smokers have you met that came down with lung cancer vs. smokers? Sure it happens, but a hell of a lot more frequently in smokers (and we won’t even get into how many cases in non-smokers are possibly caused by 2’nd hand smoke).

] IF you don't like smoking,
] then don't smoke. And if you don't like seeing others smoke,
] then kill yourself.

I’ve no problem with smokers so long as my family doesn’t have to breathe that shit too. I just wish the tobacco companies were not being held accountable for billions of dollars in lawsuits for people’s stupidity “What? I have cancer from smoking 2 packs a day for 30 years?” Of course not dip-shit – it’s the water. All that wheezing and coughing and hacking up a lung every morning was your body’s way of telling you “everything is A-OK – light up!”

And in regards to the “kill yourself” remark…
http://www.ash.org.uk/html/factsheets/html/fact02.html

Function impaired in smokers -
Sperm count reduced
Sperm motility impaired
Sperm less able to penetrate the ovum
Sperm shape abnormalities increased

One word for you - Darwin.

LB

Laughing Boy wrote:
] Vile wrote:
] ] Laughing Boy wrote:
] ] ] Nanochick wrote:
] ] ] ] ] An experimental vaccine wiped out lung cancer in some
] ] ] ] ] patients and slowed its spread in others in a small
] but
] ] ] ] ] promising study, researchers say.
] ] ] ]
] ] ] ]
] ] ] ] [wow...thats awesome. -nano]
] ] ]
] ] ] indeed it is. now they just need to figure out a vaccine
] ] that
] ] ] wipes out smoking - the #1 cause of lung cancer, and they
] ] will
] ] ] really be on to something!
] ]
] ] F**k that! I like cigarettes. Get rid of the lung cancer,
] and
] ] we can smoke safely.
]
] Yea you’re right - never mind emphysema, bronchitis, high
] blood pressure, low birth weight, asthma, heart disease,
] stroke, pneumonia, (shall I continue?) not to mention the
] myriad of OTHER cancers that have been linked to smoking. Get
] rid of lung cancer and you'll have nothing to worry about! :)
]
]
] ] BTW, pollution and contamination of
] ] drinking water are probably worse.
]
] WORSE??? Apparently we can chalk up one more thing attributed
] to smoking - chronic stupidity. Please don't make me
] bitch-slap you with statistics. Lung cancer is CLEARLY
] several magnitudes more prevalent in smokers than non-smokers.
] Pollution and drinking water? Sure. How many NON-smokers
] have you met that came down with lung cancer vs. smokers?
] Sure it happens, but a hell of a lot more frequently in
] smokers (and we won’t even get into how many cases in
] non-smokers are possibly caused by 2’nd hand smoke).
]
] ] IF you don't like smoking,
] ] then don't smoke. And if you don't like seeing others
] smoke,
] ] then kill yourself.
]
] I’ve no problem with smokers so long as my family doesn’t have
] to breathe that shit too. I just wish the tobacco companies
] were not being held accountable for billions of dollars in
] lawsuits for people’s stupidity “What? I have cancer from
] smoking 2 packs a day for 30 years?” Of course not dip-shit –
] it’s the water. All that wheezing and coughing and hacking up
] a lung every morning was your body’s way of telling you
] “everything is A-OK – light up!”
]
] And in regards to the “kill yourself” remark…
] http://www.ash.org.uk/html/factsheets/html/fact02.html
]
] Function impaired in smokers -
] Sperm count reduced
] Sperm motility impaired
] Sperm less able to penetrate the ovum
] Sperm shape abnormalities increased
]
]
] One word for you - Darwin.
]
] LB

So I memed this article because I am intruiged by the thought of a vaccine that may help lung cancer. I in no way intended to start an all out brawl about the evils of smoking. I am a smoker, but thats not why I memed this. I memed this for the science....not the therapy for smoking:) - Nano

Nanochick wrote:
]
] So I memed this article because I am intruiged by the thought
] of a vaccine that may help lung cancer. I in no way intended
] to start an all out brawl about the evils of smoking. I am a
] smoker, but thats not why I memed this. I memed this for the
] science....not the therapy for smoking:) - Nano

I know I know! :) And I have plenty of friends who are smokers. I didn't mean to offend any of them, but facts are facts - the #1 contributor to lung cancer is (suprise) smoking.

What I was trying to say (in my smart-assed way) is that if people didn't smoke, the instances of lung cancer cases would drop so sharply that it would almost be like another "cure".

The intention was not to start World War V, but I guess I should have known how sensitive some people are about this topic.

So with all due respect to my hacking (pun intended) friends, I simply could not resist the temptation to bite at the stupidest, most misinformed retort EVER that said (among other things) get rid of lung cancer and smoking will be safe.

LB

Laughing Boy wrote:
] Vile wrote:
] ] Laughing Boy wrote:
] ] ] Nanochick wrote:
] ] ] ] ] An experimental vaccine wiped out lung cancer in some
] ] ] ] ] patients and slowed its spread in others in a small
] but
] ] ] ] ] promising study, researchers say.
] ] ] ]
] ] ] ]
] ] ] ] [wow...thats awesome. -nano]
] ] ]
] ] ] indeed it is. now they just need to figure out a vaccine
] ] that
] ] ] wipes out smoking - the #1 cause of lung cancer, and they
] ] will
] ] ] really be on to something!
] ]
] ] F**k that! I like cigarettes. Get rid of the lung cancer,
] and
] ] we can smoke safely.
]
] Yea you’re right - never mind emphysema, bronchitis, high
] blood pressure, low birth weight, asthma, heart disease,
] stroke, pneumonia, (shall I continue?) not to mention the
] myriad of OTHER cancers that have been linked to smoking. Get
] rid of lung cancer and you'll have nothing to worry about! :)
]
]
] ] BTW, pollution and contamination of
] ] drinking water are probably worse.
]
] WORSE??? Apparently we can chalk up one more thing attributed
] to smoking - chronic stupidity. Please don't make me
] bitch-slap you with statistics. Lung cancer is CLEARLY
] several magnitudes more prevalent in smokers than non-smokers.
] Pollution and drinking water? Sure. How many NON-smokers
] have you met that came down with lung cancer vs. smokers?
] Sure it happens, but a hell of a lot more frequently in
] smokers (and we won’t even get into how many cases in
] non-smokers are possibly caused by 2’nd hand smoke).
]
] ] IF you don't like smoking,
] ] then don't smoke. And if you don't like seeing others
] smoke,
] ] then kill yourself.
]
] I’ve no problem with smokers so long as my family doesn’t have
] to breathe that shit too. I just wish the tobacco companies
] were not being held accountable for billions of dollars in
] lawsuits for people’s stupidity “What? I have cancer from
] smoking 2 packs a day for 30 years?” Of course not dip-shit –
] it’s the water. All that wheezing and coughing and hacking up
] a lung every morning was your body’s way of telling you
] “everything is A-OK – light up!”
]
] And in regards to the “kill yourself” remark…
] http://www.ash.org.uk/html/factsheets/html/fact02.html
]
] Function impaired in smokers -
] Sperm count reduced
] Sperm motility impaired
] Sperm less able to penetrate the ovum
] Sperm shape abnormalities increased
]
]
] One word for you - Darwin.
]
] LB

I used to smoke. I stopped not because of health reasons, but because the tax hikes were too much to afford. If you don't like secondhand smoke, the fact that they have to pay a disproportionately higher amount of tax then you do, means you have to suffer it. They paid extra so you may breathe their bad air. If you hold the tobacco companies responsible, you must also find the government responsible. The Goverment is probably making a better profit in some states. Since these are tax dollars that you don't have to pay, you should start thanking random smokers who happen to be within breathing distance. They're killing themselves so you have less to pay. Just sit back and enjoy the FREE smoke that this poor asshole's hard earned dollars were spent to share.

terratogen wrote:
]
] I used to smoke. I stopped not because of health reasons, but
] because the tax hikes were too much to afford. If you don't
] like secondhand smoke, the fact that they have to pay a
] disproportionately higher amount of tax then you do, means you
] have to suffer it. They paid extra so you may breathe their
] bad air.

Not REALLY. The current trend is to abolish smoking from indoor establishments. Its gone from I think pretty much all government buildings, and just about the only places that allow it now are bars and some restaurants. I'm not sure how old you are, but I can recall a time (and its not that long ago) when smoking was alowed just about everywhere. The little "No Smoking" indicator in your overhead lights onboard airplanes? Once you were at crusing altitude, not only did the captain turn off the "fasten seatbelts" sign, but that as well. Yes those ashtrays in the arm rests that are welded shut were actually used at one point.

] If you hold the tobacco companies responsible, you
] must also find the government responsible. The Goverment is
] probably making a better profit in some states.

Most definately. There is a cartoon someplace of Jesse Helms holding out pack of cigs and under it the caption "Drug lord" LOL!

] Since these
] are tax dollars that you don't have to pay, you should start
] thanking random smokers who happen to be within breathing
] distance. They're killing themselves so you have less to pay.
] Just sit back and enjoy the FREE smoke that this poor
] asshole's hard earned dollars were spent to share.

Again, its not nearly as bad as it used to be. Now 99% of the time smokers have to go outdoors where its easier to get away from, which is fair IMO. But you smokers should be pissed - you are getting screwed over on a multitude of fronts... you're paying higher taxes per pack AND your options of where you can legally light up are diminishing.

Do like Terratogen and my dad did - quit.