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GOP senator - Why are we so concerned about treatment of terrorists?
by Acidus at 1:07 pm EDT, May 12, 2004

] "If they're in cell block 1A or 1B, these prisoners --
] they're murderers, they're terrorists, they're
] insurgents," said Inhofe, a conservative from Oklahoma.
] "Many of them probably have American blood on their
] hands. And here we're so concerned about the treatment of
] those individuals."

And by "a conservative from Oklahoma," they mean a Republican Senator. This isn't some hate filled politically driven talk show host saying these remarks. This is a Representative of the American people in the highest house of the Congress, telling the world the torture inflicted at Abu Ghraib was justified,and dehumanizing the victums as people not worthy of basic human rights.

That is a scary and chilling statement. It explains the reactions and drive of our government in this war. Its a war against against people they aren't even acknowledging as people deserving human rights. This is fanaticism without religion! Now, remembering how last week Rumsfeld seemed far more concerned that the pictures were leaked than what they depicted, ask yourself this: Do you think the very senior government offical truely feel "sorry" about the mistreatment? No, as the Senator himself has shown, members of the government view even the enemies in the Iraq war as "terrorists" and Rumsfeld already stated that Terrorists will not be treated as normal captives.

Decius called it about a week ago. We are starting to justify our actions, and possibly the war, by dehumanizing our enemies. The scary thing is when the public starts to buy into it.


 
RE: GOP senator - Why are we so concerned about treatment of terrorists?
by Hijexx at 1:59 pm EDT, May 12, 2004

Acidus wrote:
] ] "If they're in cell block 1A or 1B, these prisoners --
] ] they're murderers, they're terrorists, they're
] ] insurgents," said Inhofe, a conservative from Oklahoma.
] ] "Many of them probably have American blood on their
] ] hands. And here we're so concerned about the treatment of
] ] those individuals."
]
] And by "a conservative from Oklahoma," they mean a Republican
] Senator. This isn't some hate filled politically driven
] talk show host saying these remarks. The is a
] Representative of the American people in the highest
] house of the Congress, telling the world the torture inflicted
] at Abu Ghraib was justified,and dehumanizing the victums as
] people not worthy of rights.

One of America's basic principles is the assumption of innocence until the proof of guilt. If we are supposed to be bringing democracy to Iraq, I would expect those principles to be upheld.

This Senator tiptoes around the fact that there are detainees in Abu Ghraib who are not guilty of any crime. He said "Many of them probably have American blood on their hands." 'Many' and 'probably' are subjective. They can mean anything.

If we are going to roll back the clocks to Spanish inquisition tactics, let's just fold now and quit calling America a democracy. Be aware though that a government willing to use torture against the civilians of a foreign country has the moral capability to use that same torture against its own population.


CNN.com - GOP senator labels abused prisoners 'terrorists' - May 12, 2004
by Decius at 2:21 pm EDT, May 12, 2004

] A Republican member of the Senate Armed Services
] Committee dismissed Tuesday the outrage over the abuse of
] Iraqi prisoners by U.S. troops, saying Iraqis depicted in
] widely broadcast photographs probably had "blood on their
] hands."

Rush limbaugh runs it. It flys. So they pull the story a little further in and run it again. If it flys again we'll see if from more mainstream leaders...


CNN.com - GOP senator labels abused prisoners 'terrorists' - May 12, 2004
by skullaria at 4:45 pm EDT, May 12, 2004

Doesn't suprise me one bit....
and thanks to a atrocity on the other side (while supposedly he was in US custody not long ago????)the story is dying never to have the most severe pictures and videos shown or really discussed.

I want to hear more about the rape and murder that these videos and other pictures depict.

Just how far does this rabbit hole go?

I'm convinced we are indeed in a heated inforwar. Manipulation of the masses at its best.

] A Republican member of the Senate Armed Services
] Committee dismissed Tuesday the outrage over the abuse of
] Iraqi prisoners by U.S. troops, saying Iraqis depicted in
] widely broadcast photographs probably had "blood on their
] hands."

Rush limbaugh runs it. It flys. So they pull the story a little further in and run it again. If it flys again we'll see if from more mainstream leaders...


 
 
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