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Informed Comment : 11/01/2004 - 11/30/2004
by k at 12:20 pm EST, Nov 9, 2004 |
] To put it bluntly, Americans have chosen to return a man
] to the White House who has supervised the killing of more
] civilians than Slobodan Milosevic. We have signed onto a
] President who sanctions torture, who wantonly rejects any
] international treaty--Kyoto, the ABM and the
] International Criminal Court--that doesn%u2019t suit his
] messianic agenda. Who truly believes %u201CGod
] Almighty%u201D is on his side.
]
]
] America, in short, has become a criminal nation, and it
] must be stopped. (Yes, there are many other criminal
] nations, but aside from Israel how many even have the
] pretense of democracy? Russia? The Sudan? China? India is
] perhaps one; and given its sordid occupation of Kashmir
] it shouldn%u2019t surprise that a US-India-Israel axis of
] occupation and Islamophobia is one of the most prominent
] features of the world%u2019s geo-strategic post-9/11
] landscape.) [ From Mark Levine, courtesy of Juan Cole. He's more emphatic than i would be. Bush isn't an international war criminal, though it's not an impossibility either. -k] |
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RE: Informed Comment : 11/01/2004 - 11/30/2004
by Decius at 12:52 pm EST, Nov 9, 2004 |
k wrote:
] ] To put it bluntly, Americans have chosen to return a man
] ] to the White House who has supervised the killing of more
] ] civilians than Slobodan Milosevic. To put it bluntly, comparing Bush to Milosevic is unadulterated bullshit. |
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RE: Informed Comment : 11/01/2004 - 11/30/2004
by Mike the Usurper at 8:00 pm EST, Nov 15, 2004 |
Decius wrote:
] k wrote:
] ] ] To put it bluntly, Americans have chosen to return a man
] ] ] to the White House who has supervised the killing of more
] ] ] civilians than Slobodan Milosevic.
]
] To put it bluntly, comparing Bush to Milosevic is
] unadulterated bullshit. I would agree with that sentiment, but I'm having a hard time finding someone else to compare him to. Milosevic knew who he was targeting, while for Bush, the civilians meeting untimely demises are simply people in the wrong place at the wrong time, so I don't know who to make the comparison to. Hitler? No. Stalin? Not really. Mao? Again no. Pol Pot? Nope. Maybe the best group would be any of the leaders from WWI? Ariel Sharon? With the sheer amount of collateral damage, I'm not sure who to make a comparison to. Based on the raw numers, Milosevic might be in the ballpark, but there's a difference of intent, and on those grounds, it's a bad comparison. Other suggestions are welcome though, this could be an interesting line of thought. |
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RE: Informed Comment : 11/01/2004 - 11/30/2004
by Decius at 9:52 pm EST, Nov 15, 2004 |
Mike the Usurper wrote:
] I would agree with that sentiment, but I'm having a hard time
] finding someone else to compare him to. Milosevic knew who he
] was targeting, while for Bush, the civilians meeting untimely
] demises are simply people in the wrong place at the wrong
] time, so I don't know who to make the comparison to. Hitler?
] No. Stalin? Not really. Mao? Again no. Pol Pot? Nope.
] Maybe the best group would be any of the leaders from WWI?
] Ariel Sharon? The last one is the best I think. The rest were involved in genocide. Thats why its not a fare comparison. Except Mao, but he did try to wipe a 4,000 year old culture off the face of the earth. Bush has made decisions that have resulted in innocent's death, and we can debate the wisdom of those decisions, but thats not his purpose. He is not a war criminal. |
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RE: Informed Comment : 11/01/2004 - 11/30/2004
by Mike the Usurper at 12:25 pm EST, Nov 16, 2004 |
Decius wrote:
] Mike the Usurper wrote:
] ] I would agree with that sentiment, but I'm having a hard
] time
] ] finding someone else to compare him to. Milosevic knew who
] he
] ] was targeting, while for Bush, the civilians meeting
] untimely
] ] demises are simply people in the wrong place at the wrong
] ] time, so I don't know who to make the comparison to.
] Hitler?
] ] No. Stalin? Not really. Mao? Again no. Pol Pot? Nope.
]
] ] Maybe the best group would be any of the leaders from WWI?
] ] Ariel Sharon?
]
] The last one is the best I think. The rest were involved in
] genocide. Thats why its not a fare comparison. Except Mao, but
] he did try to wipe a 4,000 year old culture off the face of
] the earth. Bush has made decisions that have resulted in
] innocent's death, and we can debate the wisdom of those
] decisions, but thats not his purpose. He is not a war
] criminal. Well I'm sure the Palestinians would disagree with the idea that Sharon isn't a war criminal, but it's an interesting topic. Are there any other good comparisons out there? How about Nikita Kruschev? Come on folks, jump in with your picks! |
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