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Thomas Friedman's Latest Article | NYT Subscription Wall Goes Up
by Rattle at 12:02 pm EDT, Sep 21, 2005

If President Bush wants to make anything of his second term, he should make a quest for energy independence the moon shot of our generation.

Well, here it is.. The first new Friedman column behind the New York Times subscription wall.

Goodbye Tom! I refuse to pay $7.95 a month when there is only one columnist I regularly read there. I might pay $10 a year for "FriedmanSelect", if half of the money made it directly to Tom. All NYT's other content, I usually find via discussions taking place on the web. Those conversations all start to go dead today. The New York Times voice of commentary is about to get really, really, really soft and quiet.

Hopefully this will not last long. Thomas, if you can hear me, PUT UP A BLOG. PLEASE!!


 
RE: Thomas Friedman's Latest Article | NYT Subscription Wall Goes Up
by Decius at 12:09 pm EDT, Sep 21, 2005

Rattle wrote:

If President Bush wants to make anything of his second term, he should make a quest for energy independence the moon shot of our generation.

IMHO he has, literally. The reason we're going back to the moon is for energy independence.


  
RE: Thomas Friedman's Latest Article | NYT Subscription Wall Goes Up
by Shannon at 12:45 pm EDT, Sep 21, 2005

Decius wrote:

Rattle wrote:

If President Bush wants to make anything of his second term, he should make a quest for energy independence the moon shot of our generation.

IMHO he has, literally. The reason we're going back to the moon is for energy independence.

Now that space programs are popping up all over, I wonder how property battles are going to happen on the moon.


   
RE: Thomas Friedman's Latest Article | NYT Subscription Wall Goes Up
by Rattle at 3:12 pm EDT, Sep 21, 2005

Now that space programs are popping up all over, I wonder how property battles are going to happen on the moon.

That is actually a very good question. Lets hope it does not involve bringing weapons into the space colonization picture, which is something that has come up before in regard to the moon. If a situation arises where a particular region of the moon is resource rich, where as others are not, it could become a real issue.


   
RE: Thomas Friedman's Latest Article | NYT Subscription Wall Goes Up
by Decius at 5:47 pm EDT, Sep 21, 2005

terratogen wrote:
Now that space programs are popping up all over, I wonder how property battles are going to happen on the moon.

There are some international treaties on that, but they've always struck me as naive. There is some guy offering deeds but his customers also strike me as naive. Right now the US is the only country that has made it to the moon, so they are the defacto owners of it, but if they claimed some sort of exclusive right they would loose important international support for NASA. Eventually other countries will get there. No one will stop them. No one will prevent the US from selling energy mined there. No one will prevent other countries from doing the same. Then, eventually, probably many years from now, an actual conflict will arise over land access. It will be negotiated. Its possible for military conflict to break out over ownership of the moon, but right now the moon is not valuable enough to imagine why such a conflict would take place. Frankly, the moon will go to the people who actually get there and actually do stuff with it.


 
 
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