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Community responds to Taser use in Powell
by k at 8:49 pm EST, Nov 20, 2006

According to a study published in the Lancet Medical Journal in 2001, a charge of three to five seconds can result in immobilization for five to 15 minutes, which would mean that Tabatabainejad could have been physically unable to stand when the officers demanded that he do so.

"It is a real mistake to treat a Taser as some benign thing that painlessly brings people under control," said Peter Eliasberg, managing attorney at the ACLU of Southern California.

"The Taser can be incredibly violent and result in death," Eliasberg said.

According to an ACLU report, 148 people in the United States and Canada have died as a result of the use of Tasers since 1999.

During the altercation between Tabatabainejad and the officers, bystanders can be heard in the video repeatedly asking the officers to stop and requesting their names and identification numbers. The video showed one officer responding to a student by threatening that the student would "get Tased too." At this point, the officer was still holding a Taser.

Such a threat of the use of force by a law enforcement officer in response to a request for a badge number is an "illegal assault," Eliasberg said.

"It is absolutely illegal to threaten anyone who asks for a badge - that's assault," he said.

Until tonight I hadn't watched the video of the taser incident. Its linked here. Its hard to watch. In fact, I didn't make it through and I was very angry for a while after seeing it. I actually don't recommend watching it.

These cops are tasering this kid and then demanding that he stand. They are demanding over and over again that he stand up and then tasering him when he refuses to stand. Its fucked up. Would you want to stand after getting electrocuted? Worse, they threaten to taser the other students that are watching the incident because they express concern with the situation. I do not understand how people can watch this video and not get that this is a bunch of guys who enjoy hurting people and have found a victim. How warped can you possibly be? What sort of authoritarian brain washing leads you to look at this and wonder whether or not it was justified?

[Hear hear.

It's one of the most difficult things I've ever watched too.

Had I been present I'd have had a tough time avoiding getting tasered too. That shit was completely obscene.

Losing their jobs will probably force those fucks to take out their animal urges in some other way, i guess, but for gods sake, they shouldn't be there.

My cousin goes to UCLA. If she got tasered by some jackass with a fake badge, I'd be wanting to fly out there and taser him with a tire iron. -k]


 
RE: Community responds to Taser use in Powell
by Dagmar at 4:48 pm EST, Nov 21, 2006

I saw this video, and I have to say that if I'd been there, the cops probably would have wound up tasering me because I would not have let them do that, knowing what I know about tasers.

There was simply no way he could have complied with their orders to stand up, and I cannot see how they could have gotten through training in the use of these without knowing it. This is not something I would have been able to keep my mouth shut about, given the number of ways an excessive tasering can go wrong.


Community responds to Taser use in Powell
by Decius at 2:53 am EST, Nov 18, 2006

According to a study published in the Lancet Medical Journal in 2001, a charge of three to five seconds can result in immobilization for five to 15 minutes, which would mean that Tabatabainejad could have been physically unable to stand when the officers demanded that he do so.

"It is a real mistake to treat a Taser as some benign thing that painlessly brings people under control," said Peter Eliasberg, managing attorney at the ACLU of Southern California.

"The Taser can be incredibly violent and result in death," Eliasberg said.

According to an ACLU report, 148 people in the United States and Canada have died as a result of the use of Tasers since 1999.

During the altercation between Tabatabainejad and the officers, bystanders can be heard in the video repeatedly asking the officers to stop and requesting their names and identification numbers. The video showed one officer responding to a student by threatening that the student would "get Tased too." At this point, the officer was still holding a Taser.

Such a threat of the use of force by a law enforcement officer in response to a request for a badge number is an "illegal assault," Eliasberg said.

"It is absolutely illegal to threaten anyone who asks for a badge - that's assault," he said.

Until tonight I hadn't watched the video of the taser incident. Its linked here. Its hard to watch. In fact, I didn't make it through and I was very angry for a while after seeing it. I actually don't recommend watching it.

These cops are tasering this kid and then demanding that he stand. They are demanding over and over again that he stand up and then tasering him when he refuses to stand. Its fucked up. Would you want to stand after getting electrocuted? Worse, they threaten to taser the other students that are watching the incident because they express concern with the situation. I do not understand how people can watch this video and not get that this is a bunch of guys who enjoy hurting people and have found a victim. How warped can you possibly be? What sort of authoritarian brain washing leads you to look at this and wonder whether or not it was justified?


Community responds to Taser use in Powell
by skullaria at 4:22 am EST, Nov 21, 2006

The police should NOT be the ones to investigate this.

This video terrified me. The guy is heard saying he has a medical condition! Now, as some of you know, I have a severe neurological condition. I look healthy most days, sometimes though I cannot walk. It varies, but anyway, I look ok a lot of days. No one could tell that there is no myelin on a lot of my stupid nerves.

Now, I had a nerve conduction test where they used LOW level shocks on me to test my nerves. They had to crank it up to get a response - my nerves are either NOTHING, or they overload. I didn't feel it - then it was over the top painful. Yet, I am sure that is less than being tazed.

Anyway, with that medically supervised test that involved getting shocks - I could not walk at all for 2 days. I still have nightmares from that.

So, I have argued repeatedly that they should be illegal. I am scared terribly of those things. I am perhaps more scared of them than a gun, as the police seem to think that they are 'safe' and a gun 'dangerous.' Maybe for some people...

Now, I thought that they were an ALTERNATIVE to a gun. Would you shoot someone for studying?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zeq_Kid7Fo&mode=related&search=

has subtitles. It is good to watch too. The words are I think from a school publication.

I am so proud of the UCLA students. :)


 
 
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