Dagmar wrote:
No, first we need to start enforcing the damn laws and booting the ones we know about as they make themselves known. Looking for other options is something to be looked into only after we've resumed enforcement.

Would you take the same position with regard to, perhaps, illegal drugs. That we can't talk about whether or not our drug policy makes sense until we really crack down, clean all the pot off the street, and throw all the possessors in prison?

...and yet the police quite frequently still write tickets to people they catch speeding there, fair and square.

Are you thinking that we don't deport people or that we aren't, say, building a wall in the south? Because we do and we are. There is always more enforcement you can do. Its always possible to crack down harder on something. My whole point is that the fact that is possible to crack down harder does not, by itself, always mean that you have to do that and you cannot consider any other options, ever. As the option of being more jack booted is always on the table, if this is your philosophy you will never do anything but be more jack booted.

Illegal immigration is reaching levels where it is putting unnecessary strain on the public resources of areas which are trying to protect actual citizens.

Now, I'll grant you that this IS a legitimate reason to be concerned about illegal immigrants (as opposed to "illegal is illegal"). However, I see these kinds of assertions thrown around all the time with scant evidence. Do you have data to back the assertion that the contributions made by illegal immigrants to the local tax pool is generally less than the burden they place on local government resources? (Let me add that a restatement of the common assumption that illegals don't contributed to the local tax pool is both incorrect and not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for data.)

I can't be 100% sure, but it seems like you're advocating the same position as the "pro alien" camp.

I guess I'm either with you or against you.

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