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Radar Online : Inside Cryptome, the website the CIA doesn't want you to see
by Rattle at 4:16 pm EDT, Aug 14, 2007

For 90 minutes, through one and a half salted margaritas, John Young has been eyeballing me, speaking softly, fidgeting with the digital recorder I've placed in front of him. He's heard all the questions I am asking before, and he answers them carefully and pleasantly. Then he tells me why he's here.

Young points out how easy it was for me to set up the interview, how accessible he made himself to me. "See, it's standard tradecraft in the spy world to be extremely cooperative to people who are expecting resistance. You just offer all possible help, and they just walk right into it. Did you really think I'd let you interview me, rather than me interview you? I'm plumbing your data. I've learned a lot about how Radar operates. I'm just doing the usual shit that agents do to recruit other agents."

Am I being recruited?

"Yes."

My mission, should I choose to accept it: Find out what happened to Haden-Guest's
story, and write about Haden-Guest's alleged MI6 connection in Radar. If I don't, Young will write about it on Cryptome. "I don't believe you for a minute that you're any different from Haden-Guest," Young rants. "I'm about to get fucked over again. Radar's behind this. Turns out, you're on my shit list. I'm only talking to you to figure out what happened, and what I'm going to make of it. It doesn't look good. Until you find out what this story was and why it was killed, I only have vengeance in my mind against Radar and anyone associated with it."


 
RE: Radar Online : Inside Cryptome, the website the CIA doesn't want you to see
by Hijexx at 11:53 am EDT, Aug 15, 2007

Rattle wrote:
My mission, should I choose to accept it: Find out what happened to Haden-Guest's
story, and write about Haden-Guest's alleged MI6 connection in Radar. If I don't, Young will write about it on Cryptome. "I don't believe you for a minute that you're any different from Haden-Guest," Young rants. "I'm about to get fucked over again. Radar's behind this. Turns out, you're on my shit list. I'm only talking to you to figure out what happened, and what I'm going to make of it. It doesn't look good. Until you find out what this story was and why it was killed, I only have vengeance in my mind against Radar and anyone associated with it."

Interesting read. Never really knew much about the guy's background. But at the end, I had to wonder, why didn't he also record the interview with Haden-Guest? Seems like someone that paranoid would at least take that basic step. Now it's basically "oh you have the tape and you won't let anyone hear it, you bastard!" That's a mighty convenient out. You can make bold claims all day. And if Haden-Guest did actually produce the tape in the future that did not mention his purported stints with MI6, Young could just say, "you edited the tape!"

Lame.


Radar Online : Inside Cryptome, the website the CIA doesn't want you to see
by k at 10:26 am EDT, Aug 15, 2007

For 90 minutes, through one and a half salted margaritas, John Young has been eyeballing me, speaking softly, fidgeting with the digital recorder I've placed in front of him. He's heard all the questions I am asking before, and he answers them carefully and pleasantly. Then he tells me why he's here.

Very interesting article... I'm not a cryptome reader, though i've happened across it on occasion. I certainly don't agree with Young's politics or attitude, but i nonetheless admire his dedication.


Radar Online : Inside Cryptome, the website the CIA doesn't want you to see
by Decius at 1:14 pm EDT, Aug 15, 2007

The closest Young comes to explaining to me why he created Cryptome is this: "I'm a pretty fucking angry guy." He describes it as a public education project. But for every hard data point he offers, there's the ever-present admonishment that secrecy corrupts everything. "We caution people, don't believe anything we publish," he says. "We're totally untrustworthy. We may be a sting operation, we may be working for the Feds. If you trust us, you're stupid." It's like a nihilist art project: Provide your readers with more than 40,000 files of data the government doesn't want you to have, data that exposes the lies of the powerful, and then remind them that you can never, ever know for sure who is lying.


 
 
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