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Time of day calling it quits at AT&T
by noteworthy at 6:52 am EDT, Aug 30, 2007

To be sure, time marches on.

Yet for many Californians, the looming demise of the "time lady," as she's come to be known, marks the end of a more genteel era, when we all had time to share.

Following the thread:

The (somewhat dubious) prime symbol of academic knowledge, and more-or-less exclusively masculine educational attainments, was the Classical languages Greek and Latin, to which a great deal of time was devoted in "genteel" boys' education, but which few women studied.

The sheer amount of sewing done by gentlewomen in those days sometimes takes us moderns aback, but it would probably generally be a mistake to view it either as merely constant joyless toiling, or as young ladies turning out highly embroidered ornamental knicknacks to show off their elegant but meaningless accomplishments. Sewing was something to do (during the long hours at home) that often had great practical utility, and that wasn't greatly mentally taxing, and could be done sitting down while engaging in light conversation, or listening to a novel being read.

For women of the "genteel" classes the goal of non-domestic education was thus often the acquisition of "accomplishments", such as the ability to draw, sing, play music, or speak modern (i.e. non-Classical) languages (generally French and Italian). Though it was not usually stated with such open cynicism, the purpose of such accomplishments was often only to attract a husband; so that these skills then tended to be neglected after marriage.

RE: Time of day calling it quits at AT&T
by skullaria at 10:27 am EDT, Aug 30, 2007

I still think that learning Latin is very important.

I have had women tell me that they mainly went to school to for liberal arts degrees, mainly, to meet a man.

I don't think it is a bad thing - children are better off if both parents ARE educated and committed to marriage as a lifestyle, and not every woman wants an outside career. Most of our friends are a 1 parent working family - the other parent stays home with the house and the kids. It isn't always the wife though, but for me, it is a role I'm happy in, for now.

Times are changing, but somethings are going full circle.

I never use the phone for information anymore if I can help it. Well, I really don't even like PHONES.

Time of day calling it quits at AT&T - Los Angeles Times
by Catonic at 11:19 pm EDT, Aug 29, 2007

And she lives in ATL...

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