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Obama to Palin: 'Don't Mock the Constitution' | The Trail | washingtonpost.com
by Decius at 10:37 am EDT, Sep 9, 2008

It was in St. Paul last week that Palin drew raucous cheers when she delivered this put-down of Obama: "Al-Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America and he's worried that someone won't read them their rights."

But Obama, who taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for more than a decade, said captured suspects deserve to file writs of habeus corpus.

Calling it "the foundation of Anglo-American law," he said the principle "says very simply: If the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, 'Why was I grabbed?' And say, 'Maybe you've got the wrong person.'"

"The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism. It's because that's who we are. That's what we're protecting,"


 
RE: Obama to Palin: 'Don't Mock the Constitution' | The Trail | washingtonpost.com
by dc0de at 1:01 pm EDT, Sep 11, 2008

Decius wrote:

It was in St. Paul last week that Palin drew raucous cheers when she delivered this put-down of Obama: "Al-Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America and he's worried that someone won't read them their rights."

But Obama, who taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for more than a decade, said captured suspects deserve to file writs of habeus corpus.

Calling it "the foundation of Anglo-American law," he said the principle "says very simply: If the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, 'Why was I grabbed?' And say, 'Maybe you've got the wrong person.'"

"The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism. It's because that's who we are. That's what we're protecting,"

I'm not as upset with Palin's comments as I am about Obama's statement, "I will stand with the Muslims should the winds shift in an ugly direction."

That makes me feel really warm and fuzzy...

Personally, I will stand with my neighbors and friends, armed to the teeth.


  
RE: Obama to Palin: 'Don't Mock the Constitution' | The Trail | washingtonpost.com
by Lost at 1:59 pm EDT, Sep 11, 2008

dc0de wrote:

Decius wrote:

It was in St. Paul last week that Palin drew raucous cheers when she delivered this put-down of Obama: "Al-Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America and he's worried that someone won't read them their rights."

But Obama, who taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for more than a decade, said captured suspects deserve to file writs of habeus corpus.

Calling it "the foundation of Anglo-American law," he said the principle "says very simply: If the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, 'Why was I grabbed?' And say, 'Maybe you've got the wrong person.'"

"The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism. It's because that's who we are. That's what we're protecting,"

I'm not as upset with Palin's comments as I am about Obama's statement, "I will stand with the Muslims should the winds shift in an ugly direction."

That makes me feel really warm and fuzzy...

Personally, I will stand with my neighbors and friends, armed to the teeth.

Really? Because the whole quote is:

"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

And I'm with Obama. And I'd be facing you down, armed to the teeth, with Muslim Americans, defending our constitutional rights.


  
RE: Obama to Palin: 'Don't Mock the Constitution' | The Trail | washingtonpost.com
by Decius at 2:45 pm EDT, Sep 11, 2008

dc0de wrote:

Decius wrote:

It was in St. Paul last week that Palin drew raucous cheers when she delivered this put-down of Obama: "Al-Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America and he's worried that someone won't read them their rights."

But Obama, who taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for more than a decade, said captured suspects deserve to file writs of habeus corpus.

Calling it "the foundation of Anglo-American law," he said the principle "says very simply: If the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, 'Why was I grabbed?' And say, 'Maybe you've got the wrong person.'"

"The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism. It's because that's who we are. That's what we're protecting,"

I'm not as upset with Palin's comments as I am about Obama's statement, "I will stand with the Muslims should the winds shift in an ugly direction."

That makes me feel really warm and fuzzy...

Personally, I will stand with my neighbors and friends, armed to the teeth.

Context:

Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

If some sort of plan were put in place to round up muslims I would stand with them. Some of my neighbors and friends are muslims.


Obama to Palin: 'Don't Mock the Constitution'
by noteworthy at 10:08 pm EDT, Sep 9, 2008

It was in St. Paul last week that Palin drew raucous cheers when she delivered this put-down of Obama: "Al-Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America and he's worried that someone won't read them their rights."

But Obama, who taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for more than a decade, said captured suspects deserve to file writs of habeus corpus.

Calling it "the foundation of Anglo-American law," he said the principle "says very simply: If the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, 'Why was I grabbed?' And say, 'Maybe you've got the wrong person.'"

"The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism. It's because that's who we are. That's what we're protecting."

Palin's quip was troubling; I'm pleased to see Obama call her on it, but I don't expect her to seriously engage the subject. It was a throwaway line for her.

Here are two threads on the subject from earlier this year:

Benjamin Wittes’ Law and the Long War is required reading for anyone interested in the legal challenges posed by the war on terror.

Six years after the September 11 attacks, America is losing a crucial front in the ongoing war on terror. It is losing not to Al Qaeda but to its own failure to construct a set of laws that will protect the American people—its military and executive branch, as well as its citizens—in the midst of a conflict unlike any it has faced in the past.


 
RE: Obama to Palin: 'Don't Mock the Constitution'
by Dagmar at 4:12 pm EDT, Sep 10, 2008

noteworthy wrote:

It was in St. Paul last week that Palin drew raucous cheers when she delivered this put-down of Obama: "Al-Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America and he's worried that someone won't read them their rights."

But Obama, who taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for more than a decade, said captured suspects deserve to file writs of habeus corpus.

Calling it "the foundation of Anglo-American law," he said the principle "says very simply: If the government grabs you, then you have the right to at least ask, 'Why was I grabbed?' And say, 'Maybe you've got the wrong person.'"

"The reason that you have this principle is not to be soft on terrorism. It's because that's who we are. That's what we're protecting."

Palin's quip was troubling; I'm pleased to see Obama call her on it, but I don't expect her to seriously engage the subject. It was a throwaway line for her.

Here are two threads on the subject from earlier this year:

Benjamin Wittes’ Law and the Long War is required reading for anyone interested in the legal challenges posed by the war on terror.

Six years after the September 11 attacks, America is losing a crucial front in the ongoing war on terror. It is losing not to Al Qaeda but to its own failure to construct a set of laws that will protect the American people—its military and executive branch, as well as its citizens—in the midst of a conflict unlike any it has faced in the past.

Umm... yeah I'm votin' Obama.

We've had how many years now without a single person in the current administration actually acknowledging this simple truth?


  
RE: Obama to Palin: 'Don't Mock the Constitution'
by skullaria at 1:28 am EDT, Sep 12, 2008

One of the things that 'qualify' Obama for me IS the fact that he is a constitutional lawyer. I really like that - Obama for me! '
The two party system sucks and I'm not sure if the whole thing isn't corrupt to the point of a tailspin, but Obama certainly seems the most intelligent and thoughtful of the bunch.


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