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RE: Folksonomy conversation
Topic: Miscellaneous 6:54 pm EST, Mar 22, 2005

k wrote:
] Decius wrote:
] ] ] a conversation between Clay Shirky, Stewart "Flickr"
] ] Butterfield,
] ] ] Joshua "Delicious" Schachter and Jimmy "Wikipedia" Wales
] at
] ] the
] ] ] O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference in San Diego.
] ] Folksonomy
] ] ] is the process of letting users generate and apply their
] own
] ] tags
] ] ] to shared items and then discovering which tegs users
] share
] ] with
] ] ] one another. Unlike previous ventures into this field, the
] ] tags
] ] ] aren't "controlled"
] ]
] ] What are people's thoughts about replacing the topics system
] ] in MemeStreams with a folksonomy like
] [ I'm with Rattle. I think it's a fine idea. Strict
] hierarchies are either too complex, and thus unmanageable, or
] not complex enough, and therefore not useful for real
] categorization. If the category can't be determined
] automatically via semantic indexing (which is the most
] difficult, but still, i think, the best) then total
] flexibility is better. Of course, even the best semantic
] analysis isn't always going to mark a document with all the
] tags you might consider relevant, so this would even be useful
] as an addition to that level of categorization. There's no
] reason something shouldn't get multiple tags, in fact, though
] memestreams I guess only sets that on initial submission...
] -k]

I'm forced to agree. This type of free-flowing organization offers a much wider ability in the area of usage. I'd like to suggest however that if it were considered, so then might be, a core or initial tagset from which branches might grow. Making them vanilla enough to be useful and unconstrictive, both giving some internal engine the ability to make relevant high-end references to any user created tag. And perhaps even a method for users to update or grow the coreset, with obvious limitations.
This might help handle the initial potential for it growing into chaos and also give any "transition software" a leg up.

RE: Folksonomy conversation

RE: MD5 collision method published
Topic: Technology 7:51 pm EST, Mar 15, 2005

Decius wrote:
] cerkit wrote:
] ] skullaria wrote:
] ] ] ] At last, the secret of how to make MD5 collisions is
] out!
] ]
] ] It should be noted the article and the related documents
] only
] ] offer a still too slow total collision method. First block
] ] collisions in the neighborhood of two minutes, much faster
] in
] ] that respect then the soon to be released report by Wang on
] ] the subject, but over 80 times slower on second block
] ] collisions. Which is to say a meaningful method has yet to
] be
] ] fielded publicly but will most likely soon be available.
] Read the paper. Even at 80 times slower for the second half
] the Russian team reports that their overall time is 3-6 times
] faster and they obtained their first collision in 8 hours on a
] conventional laptop. MD5 is dead as fried chicken.

an 8 hour collision isn't exactly death. it's totally dependant on the application's use of MD5. for instance, PHP uses MD5 inherently as a form of session identification. and it's more likely to expire and be re-issued over the course of 8 hours depending on how carefully implemented it is. so, until we're talking minutes, and not hours to collide completely, the issue is very much still open. i agree its grave is certainly dug, but until they reconcile both of these methods and develop a unified method leveraging the advantages of both, MD5 can still be carefully and safely implemented. theres no reason to believe that process of reconciliation will be instant. as a careful developer though, i never used MD5 for anything. early on, to me, it was somewhat obvious that this would eventually occur.

RE: MD5 collision method published

What makes sense?
Topic: Current Events 1:39 pm EST, Mar 10, 2005

Herein a US Marine tells a slightly different tale about how our good buddy Saddam was captured. Whats striking to me is how much more likely it is, that this is what happened.

Take into account the other version of this instance had you believing that, what the US described as the most egotistical "dictator" of a state-nation, was found alone, unguard in a hole. And that he was taken prisoner no-harm-no-foul, in the middle of a large campaign that spanned the entire region (of which he was the leader).

What makes sense?

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