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Review: 'Trek: Nemesis' its own worst enemy
by w1ld at 12:25 pm EST, Dec 13, 2002

] "The 10th entry in the "Star Trek" movie franchise, and
] the third in which Picard has flown solo, is the dullest
] and drabbest of the lot. Simply plotted and feebly
] directed, it lacks the vigorous action that elevated
] Capt. Kirk's adventures into pulp art or the thorny
] ethical dilemmas that gave the "Next Generation" TV
] series its resonances. "

Maybe Ill just wait for the DVD rental if its that bad.


 
RE: Review: 'Trek: Nemesis' its own worst enemy
by Reknamorken at 1:11 pm EST, Dec 13, 2002

w1ld wrote:
] ] "The 10th entry in the "Star Trek" movie franchise, and
] ] the third in which Picard has flown solo, is the dullest
] ] and drabbest of the lot. Simply plotted and feebly
] ] directed, it lacks the vigorous action that elevated
] ] Capt. Kirk's adventures into pulp art or the thorny
] ] ethical dilemmas that gave the "Next Generation" TV
] ] series its resonances. "
]
] Maybe Ill just wait for the DVD rental if its that bad.

Yeah, pretty depressing, isn't it? It's like Hollywood gets complacent because they know they can make their money back just because of the franchise itself.

It's sad for me, because I know they could have done so much better. We need some more indie sci-fi action. I think the genre has been beaten to death by Hollywood and TV now.

Did you see Dog Soldiers? It only got 7.1 on IMdb, but I enjoyed it. Definitely scared me. Of course, I'm a total wimp when it comes to horror movies. The soldier's are pretty funny some times too. Especially when they start rattling off English slang and you're like "Huh? What did he say???" [Quadrophenia flashback...]

Here: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0280609


 
RE: Review: 'Trek: Nemesis' its own worst enemy
by Dolemite at 12:59 am EST, Dec 15, 2002

w1ld wrote:
] ] "The 10th entry in the "Star Trek" movie franchise, and
] ] the third in which Picard has flown solo, is the dullest
] ] and drabbest of the lot. Simply plotted and feebly
] ] directed, it lacks the vigorous action that elevated
] ] Capt. Kirk's adventures into pulp art or the thorny
] ] ethical dilemmas that gave the "Next Generation" TV
] ] series its resonances. "
]
] Maybe Ill just wait for the DVD rental if its that bad.

I went to see this on Friday night and have to say that the reviewers have forgotten the point of going to the movies - to have fun. In my opinion, Nemesis is the best of the Next Generation films. Many would argue that First Contact is the best, but for me there's just too far over the top in the campy factor.

Nemesis has several key things going for it:

1. A new villain. That's right, nothing recycled from holodecks or Barf's^H^H^H^H^H^H Worf's past or anything else used as the centerpiece for dozens of episodes.
2. They finally figured out how to show a space battle. It's hard to believe that out of the prior 9 movies, only Wrath of Khan had a decent outer space battle.
3. The Kirk v. Picard debate is closed because of the following:
- An exact DNA clone of Picard turns down pussy. Kirk tagged everything that wasn't verifiably male. (The shape shifter in Undiscovered Country was androgenous)
- When in a pinch, which attack pattern does the Enterprise use? Attack Pattern Kirk-3. Not Picard-3, but Kirk-3.
- We know that Kirk was an admiral, hell, even Janeway is an admiral in the movie. Picard never made it, even in the episode where Q showed him the end of his life. (Yeah, yeah, that could have been a false future and all that crap, but who cares.)
- Go back to "Generations". Who did Picard call on when he needed help? Kirk. All bow before the man who showed more male nipples than Baywatch.
4. No inside jokes. That's right, someone who hasn't seen the past 9 movies, or at least the past 3, could watch this and follow it. That's important.
5. Lots of explosions that don't make sense. If I wanted good acting and a thought invoking plot, I sure as hell wouldn't be watching Star Trek. I like explosions. I like aliens. Bring 'em on.

So, all in all I'd say that Nemesis is worth watching, even at full fare.

Dolemite


 
 
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