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NICK BERG: STRANGER AND STRANGER - A.N.S.W.E.Rs ANYONE?
Topic: Current Events 1:24 pm EDT, May 17, 2004

This whole Nick Berg thing is getting stranger by the moment. Some of the best parts are towards the bottom. Pay attention to how everyone mentioned below has a connection to A.N.S.W.E.R http://www.internationalanswer.org/

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More interesting ties and speculation surrounding Berg.

NICK BERG: STRANGER AND STRANGER - A.N.S.W.E.Rs ANYONE?


Observations and the State of Affairs - Peak Oil
Topic: Current Events 7:15 pm EDT, May 16, 2004

This is an issue I've tracked for a couple of years. The voices are growing. It's kind of like when one person says something contrary to popular opinion, you just laugh it off. Then more people start saying, "Hmm, well you know they might be on to something," Those that choose to ignore it will plug their ears as the voices grow.

The truth is, we are going to run out of cheap fossil fuels in our lifetimes. Our way of life is going to change dramatically very soon, within decades. Once oil production peaks, it's all downhill, literally, as we ride the downslope of the bell curve.

This page has a really good collection of starting points and quotes. I'm reading one of the books that is quoted here, "The Party's Over." It's doesn't paint a pretty picture of things to come.

Understanding how oil production affects what we have all come to accept as our way of industrial life, it underscores every war we are going to be fighting in the Middle East from here on out.

I'm curious to know, how many of you think this is even an issue? Is the talk of "peak oil" just Bravo Sierra or is it prophecy? It makes sense to me. I'm not in the camp that thinks it is just going to work itself out, not without readjusting to pre-industrial population size.

Observations and the State of Affairs - Peak Oil


RE: BERG- 98% Chance That This is a Military-Industrial Complex Psyop
Topic: Miscellaneous 6:54 pm EDT, May 16, 2004

skullaria wrote:
] There's no conspiracy theory section here, but I have to admit
] I was thinking the same thing as the writer of this article.
]
] The shaved head in the picture, just the way Berg looked.
] What he was doing there. I can't help but feel like he HAD to
] be a spy.

Oh this is just conspiracy theorist garbage. Them dirty ayrabs should all be nuked. They beheaded an American! That's much worse than torture, unless one of the detainees dies from the torture, in which case, sorry, our bad.

And don't you dare entertain thoughts that Berg was anything but an innocent American civilian. After all, John Ashcroft says so:

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http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/8672097.htm?1c

"The suggestion that Mr. Berg was in some way involved in terrorist activity or may have been linked, in some way involved, in terrorist activity is a suggestion that we do not have any ability to support and we do not believe is a valid one," Ashcroft told reporters Friday.

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And the emails that the family received from a US consular officer in Baghdad, stating that Berg was being detained in Mosul by the US military immediately before disappearing, they are obviously forged. Take this one for example, released to the AP by Berg's family:

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http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/51404-iraq-emails.html

To back its claims that Berg was in U.S. custody, the family on Thursday gave The Associated Press copies of e-mails from Beth A. Payne, the U.S. consular officer in Iraq.

"I have confirmed that your son, Nick, is being detained by the U.S. military in Mosul. He is safe. He was picked up approximately one week ago. We will try to obtain additional information regarding his detention and a contact person you can communicate with directly," Payne wrote to Berg's father, Michael, on April 1.

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You are a fool and possibly a terrorist sympathizer to question the official story. Get it straight. We are at war with terror and evil. This video proves we are fighting the good fight for freedom and democracy in Iraq. No conspiracy here, move right along.

RE: BERG- 98% Chance That This is a Military-Industrial Complex Psyop


RE: CNN.com - Berg'sĀ encounter with 'terrorist' revealed - May 13, 2004
Topic: Current Events 3:04 am EDT, May 16, 2004

Rattle wrote:
] Government sources told CNN that the encounter involved an
] acquaintance of Zacarias Moussaoui
]
] At one point during the bus ride, Berg said, the man sitting
] next to his son asked if he could use Nick's laptop computer.
]
] "It turned out this guy was a terrorist and that he, you know,
] used my son's e-mail, amongst many other people's e-mail who
] he did the same thing to," Berg said.
]
] Government sources said Berg gave the man his password,
] which was later used by Moussaoui, the sources
] said.

]
] Its a small small world?

Very. But you're a conspiracy theorist to think this was anything more than coincidence. That's why I like to call Ashcroft (who doth protest to much about Berg I think) a coincidence theorist.

RE: CNN.com - Berg'sĀ encounter with 'terrorist' revealed - May 13, 2004


Daily Mirror Apologizes for Phony Photos
Topic: Current Events 5:13 pm EDT, May 15, 2004

LONDON (AP) - The Daily Mirror newspaper published a front-page apology Saturday after photographs purportedly showing British forces abusing Iraqi prisoners turned out to be fake.

"Sorry.. We were hoaxed," read the tabloid's banner headline.

It was accompanied by an editorial that said the paper now believed the pictures were fakes.

"The evidence against them is not strong enough to convict in a court but that is not the burden of proof the Daily Mirror demands of itself," it said. "So to you readers today we apologize for publishing pictures which we now believe were not genuine."

Daily Mirror Apologizes for Phony Photos


Pretty Creatures
Topic: Humor 5:10 pm EDT, May 15, 2004

This is the most warped and twisted Flash animation I've ever seen. NSFW.

Pretty Creatures


RE: GOP senator - Why are we so concerned about treatment of terrorists?
Topic: Miscellaneous 1:59 pm EDT, May 12, 2004

Acidus wrote:
] ] "If they're in cell block 1A or 1B, these prisoners --
] ] they're murderers, they're terrorists, they're
] ] insurgents," said Inhofe, a conservative from Oklahoma.
] ] "Many of them probably have American blood on their
] ] hands. And here we're so concerned about the treatment of
] ] those individuals."
]
] And by "a conservative from Oklahoma," they mean a Republican
] Senator. This isn't some hate filled politically driven
] talk show host saying these remarks. The is a
] Representative of the American people in the highest
] house of the Congress, telling the world the torture inflicted
] at Abu Ghraib was justified,and dehumanizing the victums as
] people not worthy of rights.

One of America's basic principles is the assumption of innocence until the proof of guilt. If we are supposed to be bringing democracy to Iraq, I would expect those principles to be upheld.

This Senator tiptoes around the fact that there are detainees in Abu Ghraib who are not guilty of any crime. He said "Many of them probably have American blood on their hands." 'Many' and 'probably' are subjective. They can mean anything.

If we are going to roll back the clocks to Spanish inquisition tactics, let's just fold now and quit calling America a democracy. Be aware though that a government willing to use torture against the civilians of a foreign country has the moral capability to use that same torture against its own population.

RE: GOP senator - Why are we so concerned about treatment of terrorists?


Israeli men arrested after high-speed chase in Unicoi County
Topic: Current Events 4:01 pm EDT, May 10, 2004

ERWIN, Tenn. - No bond was set Monday for two Israeli men who were arrested after leading the Unicoi County sheriff on a high-speed chase in a rented moving truck.

Shmuel Dahan and Almaliach Naor were in court Monday, but a bond hearing was not held because they are waiting for help from the Israeli consulate, according to Unicoi's deputy court clerk, Sheri Lunceford.

...

The truck, rented from a Ryder office in Mars Hills, N.C., was being held in the county garage pending an FBI investigation, officials said.

Police said they are also being investigated by the FBI.

...

The sheriff said he saw the men throw something from the truck while they were being pursued. Officers scouring the area later found a vial containing an unknown substance along the roadway, he said.

Lawson said the vial contained a "fuel source," but he added that it hasn't been identified and authorities were treating it with caution.

Once the men were apprehended, officers also found a "Learn to Fly" brochure in the truck, leading Harris and others to express concern about security at the Nuclear Fuel Services plant in Erwin.

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Dahan also gave authorities a fake Florida driver's license issued in Plantation, Fla., he said, while Naor produced a fake identification card.

...

Now, if you'll allow me to indulge in speculation, a fire broke out at Oak Ridge's K-25 plant that Saturday afternoon:

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/163303

OAK RIDGE -- A chemical fire broke out Saturday at the East Tennessee Technology Park, forcing an evacuation of residents living within a half mile of the Department of Energy's former K-25 plant.

DOE spokesman Walter Perry said the fire occurred when liquid sodium reacted with water vapor in the air at a recycling operation.

...

DOE's emergency sirens sounded at about 1:10 p.m. to warn area residents of the situation.

...

A fire breaks out at K-25, then two Israeli's are caught later that afternoon with fake ID's and tossing a vial of "fuel source" out the window. Even if this was mere coincidence, I wonder if they will actually be investigated or just silently deported like every other Israeli spy that gets caught here. There have been other times since 9/11 that Israelis were caught in moving trucks under dubious circumstances. Add this to the list.

The enemy is in the gates. Be aware.

...

On September 10, 2001, the Army School of Advanced Military Studies issued a report written by elite US army officers, which was made public just prior to 9/11. The report gave the following description for the Mossad: "Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act." [Washington Times, 9/10/01]

Israeli men arrested after high-speed chase in Unicoi County


Top Contributors: TV/Radio Stations
Topic: Media 3:04 am EDT, May  1, 2004

METHODOLOGY: The numbers on this page are based on contributions from PACs, soft money donors, and individuals giving $200 or more. (Only those groups giving $5,000 or more are listed here.) In many cases, the organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates. All donations took place during the 2003-2004 election cycle and were released by the Federal Election Commission on Monday, March 29, 2004.

...

Shows the breakdown of contributions to Democrats and Republicans from major broadcasters. Of interest, Sinclair is #9 on the list. 2% to the Democrats, 98% to the Republicans.

I'd like to see ABC's donations as well, guess I'll be Googling tomorrow.

Top Contributors: TV/Radio Stations


RE: Sinclair Broadcast Group: For the record
Topic: Society 10:03 pm EDT, Apr 30, 2004

Decius wrote:

] Sinclair's statement on their decision to cancel the Koppel
] broadcast. I meme this because I prefer raw arguement to a
] journalist's summary thereof. Reach your own conclusions.

I think his statement is reasonable. As the owner of these stations it is Sinclair's choice to make. They obviously have a strong conviction about it. It remains to be seen how balanced the alternative programming Sinclair airs will be. If they truly do offer such a program, I commend them for sticking to their word. We'll see.

I agree that ABC is going to use this to send a message. It is no coincidence that they are broadcasting this on the eve of the anniversary of the end of "major combat operations." That the insurgency happened this month and the news of coalition torture of Iraqis is hitting will only serve to soften where ABC was going to put the dagger anyway. I have no doubt this was planned for April 30th for a long time. As much as I lean to the left, I have to side with Sinclair in principle on this one.

RE: Sinclair Broadcast Group: For the record


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